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Re: Napoleonic Wars

Post by GeorgeIVofBritannia on Sat Jul 08, 2017 10:13 pm

Napoleon Bonaparte wrote:Without Napoleon monarchies in Europe would have continued to be more feudal and autocratic than in our timeline. In my opinion the world has benefited from Napoleon overall.
Jesus christ its my enemy.
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Re: Napoleonic Wars

Post by Hadrian on Sat Jul 08, 2017 10:39 pm

Napoleon Bonaparte wrote:Without Napoleon monarchies in Europe would have continued to be more feudal and autocratic than in our timeline. In my opinion the world has benefited from Napoleon overall.

well, OF COURSE you would say that!
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Post by SamSkey on Sat Jul 08, 2017 10:43 pm

I sense some much Bias opinions in this forums. It disturbs me
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Re: Napoleonic Wars

Post by EmperorTigerstar on Sat Jul 08, 2017 11:38 pm

SamSkey wrote:It technically wasn't a world war.

Yes it was. There was fighting in the Caribbean and Asia as well as Europe.
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Post by EmperorTigerstar on Sat Jul 08, 2017 11:39 pm

GeorgeIVofBritannia wrote:
Napoleon Bonaparte wrote:Without Napoleon monarchies in Europe would have continued to be more feudal and autocratic than in our timeline. In my opinion the world has benefited from Napoleon overall.
Jesus christ its my enemy.

You mean your father's. George III ruled past Napoleon.
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Re: Napoleonic Wars

Post by GeorgeIVofBritannia on Sat Jul 08, 2017 11:39 pm

EmperorTigerstar wrote:

You mean your father's. George III ruled past Napoleon.

He's French so hes my enemy.
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Post by SamSkey on Sat Jul 08, 2017 11:40 pm

Eh....your father was better.
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Post by GeorgeIVofBritannia on Sat Jul 08, 2017 11:41 pm

SamSkey wrote:Eh....your father was better.
He was crazy as fuck (from what i've learnt)
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Post by SamSkey on Sat Jul 08, 2017 11:41 pm

I think he was crazy, but was actually insane.
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Post by r3volutionr0ck on Sun Jul 09, 2017 1:03 am

Napoleon was something, you know? More than just Napoleon Bonaparte. Quoting myself, Napoleon and France showed to the world a face they never seen. Half of the World (Europe, Most Of America at the time and North Africa) never have EVER seen what France was, and in the Napoleonic Wars they show the world their Might... and as well their Burocracy. You guys may not know. But Simon Bolivar himself was very inspired in Napoleon, and there you have "El Libertador" himself praising Napoleon. The French Revolution and the following Napoleonic Wars spread to the world the ideals once only known in the Thirteen Colonies, England and France to the whole known world. They offered Freedom. But A different kind of freedom. Quoting myself again. The World ideia of Freedom was based mostly in the Thomas Hobbes thinking of the Leviathan, the man against the man, the whole idea of the creation of the State himself. The face of the monarch, with the body made of the people, the ideia who only that power could ensure peace and freedom was the rulling ideia not only in Europe.

When Napoleon conquered Europe he not only spread France, but also spread Rousseau, Montesquieu, Voltaire and others. He said to the world "No, Not Only The Leviathan can make history, but also the People itself can!". Remembering the french revolution who led to the Napoleonic War was purely a Revolution Of the people. Where Napoleon conquered never would be the same again.

Portugal? Search fo the fleed of the portuguese court to Brazil and the revolts of Recife (Some French Generals who served under Napoleon help in the organization of the major revolt) Spain? Well, Simon Bolivar. Even in Prussia, Austria and Russia, severall of the Soldiers returned home enlighted with the ideals of the revolution, search for the Holy Alliance for more information.

This was the object of study of my essay, with anyone maybe interested i can try to translate it (besides my bad english). More or less it's very much about what i just said here. Hope i've been helpful
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Post by SamSkey on Sun Jul 09, 2017 1:07 am

Napoleon was a very amazing person in general. The things he achieved in the short time he was Emperor is astounding. Most emperors didn't even gain land in their long reign.

They don't call him Napoleon the Great for nothing.
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Post by r3volutionr0ck on Sun Jul 09, 2017 1:17 am

SamSkey wrote:Napoleon was a very amazing person in general. The things he achieved in the short time he was Emperor is astounding. Most emperors didn't even gain land in their long reign.

They don't call him Napoleon the Great for nothing.


Yes! That Famous Karl Marx quote that history repeats itself, "the first as tragedy, then as farce", comes right from Napoleon greatness! He's refering about the Napoleon III, Napoleon Bonaparte nephew, rise to power, because the people of France saw him as Napoleon I. The book the quote came from is named "The Eighteenth Brumaire of Louis Napoleon". The title refers to the Coup of 18 Brumaire in which Napoleon Bonaparte seized power in revolutionary France. (1)
Napoleon become more than just a Man, he become maybe an ideal for the people?
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Post by SamSkey on Sun Jul 09, 2017 1:21 am

Napoleon almost became a God. If he wasn't defeated at Waterloo he would've been seen as a God. Maybe. In my eyes he is an idol and his ideas of how to run a country has become one ideal of running an empire. I mean when he walked up to his men before returning to France and said "Soldiers, if there is one among you who wants to kill his general, his Emperor, here I am."
His soldiers didn't shoot and started chanting "Long live the Emperor. Long live the Emperor."

Castelot said this about Napoleon: The soldiers welcomed him as a god. "The glory is going to start again. We’re going to fight again. We're going to be happy."
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Post by r3volutionr0ck on Sun Jul 09, 2017 1:31 am

Noneless he was a child of the revolution, child of the revolution of the french. born in a island away from the continent to the one of the lowest ranks of nobility, in the age of 24 was a general, with 26 was conquering major victories, with 30 he become the emperor himself. Nothing was given to him, but everything was conquered, and conquered with greatness. There is a better way to enlight people?
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Post by Orion Gamer on Sun Jul 09, 2017 1:32 am

Simon Bolivar was inspired by Napoleon, but lost faith after he declared himself Emperor
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Post by SamSkey on Sun Jul 09, 2017 1:33 am

Of course....I almost forgot about Simon Bolivar...
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Re: Napoleonic Wars

Post by ScarletHistorian on Sun Jul 09, 2017 1:34 am

How about some underrated battles?

Battle of Jena: Napoleon screws the Awesome Prussian Army that outnumbered him.
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Post by SamSkey on Sun Jul 09, 2017 1:35 am

There are tons of Underrated Battles I believe.

How many men were in the Battle of Jena?
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Post by ScarletHistorian on Sun Jul 09, 2017 1:38 am

67k French vs 120,500 Prussian/Saxon (60k Prussia, 60,500 Saxony)
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Post by SamSkey on Sun Jul 09, 2017 1:39 am

Damn. That's a lot of men. That just proves that Napoleon was an amazing General though.
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Post by r3volutionr0ck on Sun Jul 09, 2017 1:39 am

Orion Gamer wrote:Simon Bolivar was inspired by Napoleon, but lost faith after he declared himself Emperor


good pointing that up! I was reading about Simon Bolivar, and indeed he was very conflicted about Napoleon. In first when Napoleon declared himself the emperor Simon saw him as a betrayer but In his later years writing to friends he claimed to "Understand Napoleon".  And Simon himself, become dictator of Gran-Colombia, and ruled the country for over 10 years. Renuncing only in the year of his death.
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Re: Napoleonic Wars

Post by EmperorTigerstar on Sun Jul 09, 2017 3:35 am

Napoleon will always be one of history's greatest generals and leaders. Always a good person to read about.
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Re: Napoleonic Wars

Post by Koopinator on Sun Jul 09, 2017 4:04 am

I am actually making my own video on the French revolutionary/Napoleonic wars... Here is a little preview.
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Post by Samsid on Sun Jul 09, 2017 4:15 am

He deserved to win. At least him in a clearer, less absolutist mind.
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Post by Napoleon IV on Sun Jul 09, 2017 10:03 am

The Napoleonic wars would revolutionise the way warfare would be fought, and would bring on a whole new political and diplomatic concert (literally) to Europe.

While the wars did lead to many deaths, I personally think that Napoleon wasn't a bad guy. Sure he might've been selfish with the whole emperor thing, but he wasn't a hate-driven conqueror like Hitler. We can't forget that he lead to the rise of Germany, spreading of the metric system, and the creation of modern republics and nationstates.
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