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Why is Germany always represented as "The Nazis" regardless of time period?

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Post by CptCrape Sun Jul 16, 2017 2:12 am

One recent example is in Wonder Woman, where the German Empire is represented in a very poor light despite not being any worse than the allies at the time.
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Post by Malotun Sun Jul 16, 2017 6:49 am

Because the people is usually very stupid.

OR because the media want to demonize that period to prevent it to happen again I guess... maybe, I don't really know, you have to consider that almost every one study with movies HAHAHAHA

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Post by Dittatore_Signore_Massimo Mon Jul 17, 2017 5:34 pm

I guess that it's a stereotype germans got after WWII, and since they are "the bad ones" nobody calls it racist.
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Post by Cold War Communist Mon Jul 17, 2017 5:57 pm

Because history is written by the victors. The allies demonized Germany long before film was commonplace, evidenced by the terms of the Treaty of Versailles (though, supposedly, it wasn't drastically worse than the treaties other countries had to sign to conclude the war).
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Post by CptCrape Tue Jul 18, 2017 12:23 am

Cold War Communist wrote:Because history is written by the victors. The allies demonized Germany long before film was commonplace, evidenced by the terms of the Treaty of Versailles (though, supposedly, it wasn't drastically worse than the treaties other countries had to sign to conclude the war).
Autria lost it's entire empire in treaty of Saint-Germain-en-Laye, and so did the Ottomans.
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Post by Bowtie Tue Jul 18, 2017 2:40 pm

Ignorance is why.

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Post by Cold War Communist Tue Jul 18, 2017 5:39 pm

CptCrape wrote:
Cold War Communist wrote:Because history is written by the victors. The allies demonized Germany long before film was commonplace, evidenced by the terms of the Treaty of Versailles (though, supposedly, it wasn't drastically worse than the treaties other countries had to sign to conclude the war).
Autria lost it's entire empire in treaty of Saint-Germain-en-Laye, and so did the Ottomans.

Thank you, exactly the point.
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Post by CptCrape Tue Jul 18, 2017 7:29 pm

Cold War Communist wrote:
CptCrape wrote:
Cold War Communist wrote:Because history is written by the victors. The allies demonized Germany long before film was commonplace, evidenced by the terms of the Treaty of Versailles (though, supposedly, it wasn't drastically worse than the treaties other countries had to sign to conclude the war).
Autria lost it's entire empire in treaty of Saint-Germain-en-Laye, and so did the Ottomans.

Thank you, exactly the point.

Yeah, now post-WW2 on the other hand...
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Post by NearWolf58 Thu Jul 20, 2017 7:58 pm

CptCrape wrote:
Cold War Communist wrote:
CptCrape wrote:
Cold War Communist wrote:Because history is written by the victors. The allies demonized Germany long before film was commonplace, evidenced by the terms of the Treaty of Versailles (though, supposedly, it wasn't drastically worse than the treaties other countries had to sign to conclude the war).
Autria lost it's entire empire in treaty of Saint-Germain-en-Laye, and so did the Ottomans.

Thank you, exactly the point.

Yeah, now post-WW2 on the other hand...
Their should be a film that show both sides without being biased. I know it is a lot to ask of film companies however.
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Post by CptCrape Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:05 pm

NearWolf58 wrote:
CptCrape wrote:
Cold War Communist wrote:
CptCrape wrote:
Cold War Communist wrote:Because history is written by the victors. The allies demonized Germany long before film was commonplace, evidenced by the terms of the Treaty of Versailles (though, supposedly, it wasn't drastically worse than the treaties other countries had to sign to conclude the war).
Autria lost it's entire empire in treaty of Saint-Germain-en-Laye, and so did the Ottomans.

Thank you, exactly the point.

Yeah, now post-WW2 on the other hand...
Their should be a film that show both sides without being biased.  I know it is a lot to ask of film companies however.
Probably will never happen.
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Post by NearWolf58 Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:07 pm

Because no one wants to talk about the losers
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Post by EmperorTigerstar Fri Jul 21, 2017 3:47 am

CptCrape wrote:One recent example is in Wonder Woman, where the German Empire is represented in a very poor light despite not being any worse than the allies at the time.

Firstly, they're not viewed as Nazis in the movie for obvious reasons.
Secondly, the whole point is they've been corrupted by Ares, the God of War, so of course they seem worse than usual. They're not their normal selves.
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Post by CptCrape Sat Jul 22, 2017 5:12 pm

EmperorTigerstar wrote:
CptCrape wrote:One recent example is in Wonder Woman, where the German Empire is represented in a very poor light despite not being any worse than the allies at the time.

Firstly, they're not viewed as Nazis in the movie for obvious reasons.
Secondly, the whole point is they've been corrupted by Ares, the God of War, so of course they seem worse than usual. They're not their normal selves.

Still, it is a trend in movies.
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Post by Thorfinn Karlsefni Tue Jan 16, 2018 2:00 pm

CptCrape wrote:
EmperorTigerstar wrote:
CptCrape wrote:One recent example is in Wonder Woman, where the German Empire is represented in a very poor light despite not being any worse than the allies at the time.

Firstly, they're not viewed as Nazis in the movie for obvious reasons.
Secondly, the whole point is they've been corrupted by Ares, the God of War, so of course they seem worse than usual. They're not their normal selves.

Still, it is a trend in movies.

I agree. As far back as 1997, when I took Modern European History, our ethnically Jewish professor explained to the class that Germany in WW1 was not like it was in WW2. This stunned many of my classmates.

There's no basis for the popular misconception of Germans as somehow exceptionally prone to authoritarianism and antisemitism. The most frightening thing about the NAZIs is what they reveal about what extent of evil can come alive in the hearts of all mankind. Film makers, and others, do a disservice to humanity when they portray Germans as racially wicked.

Blonde hair and blue eyes do not make you evil. It has always seemed to me that the most important lesson to take from World War 2 is that we all need to watch ourselves. All humans could theoretically fall into the same traps, willingly handing too much power to a leader who voices the strongest sentiments with the most beguiling speeches. There is something slavish in all of us. Something intellectually lazy. Something eager to let a strong leader take responsibility for things so we don't have to think about them.

Once the dictatorship is installed, who can blame the populace for obeying orders? What could they have done? About all any one person could do in the 3rd Reich was die along side the Jews, Slavs, Homosexuals, Gypsies, and other "undesirables" the government in Berlin wanted to do away with.

It's easy to portray Germans as a stereotype. But that in itself is a form of racism. Hitler would be proud.
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