Which side would you have supported in the Cold War?

by davidjl123 Sat Jul 08, 2017 8:50 pm

Title.

by Last_surprise_commieV3 Sat Jul 08, 2017 8:59 pm

Yugoslavia.They are the only good tankies.Few I should say

by normie™ Sat Jul 08, 2017 9:10 pm

damn rooskie commies... just when we thought they were gone, now they've come back again to doubt our beautiful democracy on message boards. might as well be turrists, in my opinion.

by Gabriel van Grëiser Sat Jul 08, 2017 9:11 pm

Being neutral yet having trade relations with both sides is the best option in my opinion. You would basically stay out of trouble (yes, I know it is not that simple, but you get my point) and benefiting from a free market.

by Last_surprise_commieV3 Sat Jul 08, 2017 9:16 pm

normie™ wrote:damn rooskie commies... just when we thought they were gone, now they've come back again to doubt our beautiful democracy on message boards. might as well be turrists, in my opinion.

YOU NEVER SEE IT COMING! -Persona 5
All socialist support direct democracy in theory. Anarcho Communist always pratice it. I am not sure about others

by Conquerer1234 Sat Jul 08, 2017 9:22 pm

Last_surprise_commieV3 wrote:
normie™ wrote:damn rooskie commies... just when we thought they were gone, now they've come back again to doubt our beautiful democracy on message boards. might as well be turrists, in my opinion.
YOU NEVER SEE IT COMING! -Persona 5
All socialist support direct democracy in theory. Anarcho Communist always pratice it. I am not sure about others

I do agree with that statement. but Democracy ends up being flawed in most applications leading to either oligarchical rule or an autocracy.

I would also be neutral because I don't support some actions on both sides of the Iron Curtain, and because you don't have to be involved in the game of DEFCON everytime a small island gets nukes.

by walkerbull Sat Jul 08, 2017 11:06 pm

Conquerer1234 wrote:
Last_surprise_commieV3 wrote:
normie™ wrote:damn rooskie commies... just when we thought they were gone, now they've come back again to doubt our beautiful democracy on message boards. might as well be turrists, in my opinion.
YOU NEVER SEE IT COMING! -Persona 5
All socialist support direct democracy in theory. Anarcho Communist always pratice it. I am not sure about others
I do agree with that statement. but Democracy ends up being flawed in most applications leading to either oligarchical rule or an autocracy.

I would also be neutral because I don't support some actions on both sides of the Iron Curtain, and because you don't have to be involved in the game of DEFCON everytime a small island gets nukes.

To be fair, communism, where ever it is attempted, results in chronic shortages and discontent. This in turn results in a violent suppression of opposition.
Marx lived in cloud cuckoo land.

by Commie_China_Champ Sun Jul 09, 2017 12:23 am

As what country

by Sir_Drex Sun Jul 09, 2017 2:29 am

Ideologically, the Soviets.
Actually, the Americans.

by HUNDmiau Tue Jul 11, 2017 9:38 am

walkerbull wrote:

To be fair, communism, where ever it is attempted, results in chronic shortages and discontent. This in turn results in a violent suppression of opposition.
Marx lived in cloud cuckoo land.

First: You mean sovjet-like state-socialists, don't you?
Second: Well, not one time was a socialist experiment left alone. Not one "socialist" nation was allowed to create itself in peace and left to live in harmony. Coups, embargos, war, funded unrest, election fraud and the list goes on. It is no wonder they were unable to show any result when all nations of the world pointed their guns at them and only waited for a sign of weakness.
Third: What about libertarian socialist "nations"? They increased productivity, qualitiy of life and so on. While it is true, they never lasted very long (due to losing civil war, not because of internal flaws), they still achieved great things.
Fourth: Nations that tried state-socialism were shit-poor before and at least less shit-poor while they tried it. Russia was a backwater semi-feudal monarchy before, and look at it now. A corrupt, oligarchy. Just like the US. (They grow so fast xD)
Same goes for yugoslavia. Their market socialism was rather effective most of the time.

by AltHistNerd13 Tue Jul 11, 2017 1:01 pm

Neutral, because they both commited war-crimes to further their geopolitical goals.

by CptCrape Fri Jul 14, 2017 11:10 pm

While I think the Western Bloc is better, I do not believe the fall of the USSR was a good event. Despite the tension it caused, having another power to check America's was ultimately beneficial. It's like in business, competition is key. I also, believe the lives of the people in the USSR and satellite states were better until 1991. Since then, birth rates have crumbled, economy's have stagnated, crime has skyrocketed, and ethnic tensions have flared. It could've been a lot better if they eased out of it.

by Bowtie Sun Jul 16, 2017 7:37 pm

I believe in a capitalist Society because you can better yourself, under communism no matter how hard you work you can never get ahead and there's no free thought.

by Hashem Tue Jul 18, 2017 3:49 pm

Definitely I would choose the USSR, since the United States was such a propaganda machine. The USSR did produce propaganda, but nowhere near to the extent of the United States. Life in the Soviet Union was not bad at all. It was very peaceful (trust me).

by CptCrape Tue Jul 18, 2017 7:25 pm

Hashem wrote:Definitely I would choose the USSR, since the United States was such a propaganda machine. The USSR did produce propaganda, but nowhere near to the extent of the United States. Life in the Soviet Union was not bad at all. It was very peaceful (trust me).

As an American, I think the world was a better place with the Soviet Union. Of course the cold war was terrible, but the lives of the people in Eastern Europe would be much better.

by ceaserkhan22 Wed Jul 19, 2017 8:25 am

Ideologically, USA
Actually, USA

by Lord Yavimaya Wed Jul 26, 2017 12:44 am

Both sides did bad shit, but I must side with the capitalists out of ideological reasons.

by DavidlVofGeorgia Wed Jul 26, 2017 2:43 pm

The West killed far less people. Mao alone killed 78 million (more than all of ww2). I side with the West 100%. Imo the Cold War isn't over until all Communist countries feel as guilty as Germany.

On the point of countering American hegemony. China's military spending will surpass the US by 2025 and in GDP by 2018.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/mikepatton/2016/04/29/global-economic-news-china-will-surpass-the-u-s-in-2018/#657b5a97224a

The US will still be able to fight two front wars halfway around the world but so will China soon.

by Hashem Sat Jul 29, 2017 8:51 pm

DavidlVofGeorgia wrote:The West killed far less people. Mao alone killed 78 million (more than all of ww2). I side with the West 100%. Imo the Cold War isn't over until all Communist countries feel as guilty as Germany.

On the point of countering American hegemony. China's military spending will surpass the US by 2025 and in GDP by 2018.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/mikepatton/2016/04/29/global-economic-news-china-will-surpass-the-u-s-in-2018/#657b5a97224a

The US will still be able to fight two front wars halfway around the world but so will China soon.

Now thats a much different story, death is not part of communism at all. And you don't know that for sure, because then again, the United States was a propaganda machine, I'm sure they said the same shit about the USSR, Vietnam, and other Communist countries.

by Malotun Sat Jul 29, 2017 9:14 pm

Neutral definitely... but better dead than red

~~Free helicopter rides~~

by CptCrape Wed Aug 02, 2017 8:33 pm

Malotun wrote:Neutral definitely... but better dead than red

~~Free helicopter rides~~

Which side would you have supported in the Cold War? 03a

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by DavidlVofGeorgia Wed Aug 02, 2017 8:35 pm

I sexually identify as an Argentinian Pinochet helicopter.

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